Inner alchemy of shadows and light with Nathalie Jackson

Tune in as Nathalie shares a bit about her journey to becoming a Priestess as well as some great information and wisdom for personal growth and transformation.

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https://www.nathaliejackson.com/

https://www.facebook.com/nathalie.jackson.77

https://www.nathaliejackson.com/mythic-feminine-oracle

https://www.nathaliejackson.com/events

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to In the Hands of Spirit, a podcast bringing you stories and experiences of hope, healing, inspiration, transformation, magic, and miracles. I'm your host, Kim Wilkinson. I'll be sharing many of my own wild and wonderful stories, and I'll be interviewing guests who will be sharing their incredible stories of being in the hands of spirit. So follow along and let's see where spirit takes us. Hello everyone. Welcome back to another episode of In the Hands of Spirit. We had a bit of a break here as I was away, but I'm excited to be back with another incredible guest. Today I have Natalie Jackson here, who is uh local to my area as well. And I think we have a lot in common. We have a lot of connections. We have actually never met in person and haven't really had any detailed conversations. So I'm super excited to get to know Natalie a bit more and to have her share with all of us the incredible gifts and hopefully a bit about her journey. Natalie, welcome and thank you for choosing to be here today.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Thanks, Kim. I'm really truly grateful to be talking to you and meeting you in this magical way.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Love how spirit works, right? We were just talking briefly before we started recording that we've been connected through social media for probably, I want to say three or four years, maybe longer. And yet we've never met in person. We live in the same community, basically. So, Natalie, I'm we're gonna just dive right in. I wanna I want to know a little bit more about who is Natalie Jackson. Tell us about the work you do and how you were led to it.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

Sure. Well, I started off my career actually as an electrical engineer. I wasn't in the holistic world at all. And then moved into, you know, kind of my own evolution of becoming a mother in my 20s and went through a really interesting rite of passage, as I'm sure we all do with motherhood or parenthood, right? And for me, my son ended up coming into the world with a brain injury, and it led to this turmoil in our family for many, many years. And so I quickly realized that my journey of engineering didn't give me the tools that I needed, clearly, to be a mother of a child who needed something different and extra and you know, some care I didn't have access to and knowledge about. And so I left my engineering career. I just walked in one day and walked out again and knew that there was something else on the horizon. And I started looking, and quite quickly, actually, I remember just a week after leaving my job, a catalog from Grant McEwan, this is one of our local community colleges, came and it had a whole holistic practitioner program in it. And and it was addressed to me. And you know, Kim, I'd never gone to Grant McEwan before. I have no idea why I was on their mailing list. And so I opened it up, and there was this whole program, and and my entire being just said yes to it. I knew there was something there in that world that I had not ever experienced in this other world of oil and gas and engineering and all of that. And so I I jumped in and I have not looked back. There's just been one inspired kind of breadcrumb after another and after another. And and in the end, you know, I was able to offer my son some some different tools to help work through not only the earlier years, but then but then through addictions and and all of the other difficulties that he's faced, we've been able to navigate that in in a more empowered way, I would say, because of this pathway.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Wow, that's incredible. So can I ask you, how many years ago was that, or what year was that?

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Well, my son was born in 2000, so it was 26 years ago that I made the move from engineering to holistic therapy. I had a couple brick and mortar businesses in the city, you know, different kinds of therapy, yoga studio, that kind of thing. And now I have a space here on our land that has a retreat center and a straw bale building on it. We have, you know, we do all kinds of community gatherings and festivals and retreats out here.

SPEAKER_01 4:39

I love it. I'm gonna have to get out there one of these days for sure. It's it's interesting. Just already I'm seeing how many similarities we actually have. I I came from municipal government too, and and I never would have thought I worked would work in this, we'll call it this realm, maybe. So it's it's interesting. And I think it just goes to show for anybody who is listening who may feel like they're not in the right place, significant change like that is possible.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

It sure is. And and I find the more I I kind of aligned with what it was that was really tuned into maybe what my soul came in here for, the more the doors just seemed to open for me and new people would come into my awareness, new teachings would come into my awareness, and it became easier, even though I wouldn't say the work is easier, you know, there's still challenges and obstacles to overcome. And because it's so closely tied to my own evolution and my own purpose here, the overcoming of the obstacles has become an easier path to take. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

That makes a lot of sense to me. I can relate to that too. I don't know about you, but I did spend a lot of years that didn't feel easy where there was resistance, where I felt stuck in cycles and patterns, and nothing was changing. But yet I wanted everything to change. What was it? So you perhaps were feeling that at some point as well. You shared a bit about the Grant McEwen flyer that came that sparked your interest. Was there anything else that really created that first big shift for you?

SPEAKER_00 6:32

I think yes. My answer to that is being in the right place at the right time and an openness to my being that someone came into my world. I had I had a holistic center just in in Edmonton here, and someone walked in I'd never met before, and started talking about this woman that they'd, you know, heard about in Massachusetts who does this priestessing. And the night before, I had had a dream that said I was going to walk the path of the priestess. And at that point in time, I can legit say I did not know what a priestess was. That was complete nonsense to me. It was, it was, it didn't have any content to it. It had nothing of substance to it. And then this person walked in and started talking about this woman named Elisa Starkweather in Massachusetts, who has a program called Priestess Path. And I was like, really? That is just too big of a coincidence to not follow through with it. And so I contacted Elisa and her program started the next week. She had one opening in it, and I had enough air miles to do nine trips to Massachusetts to do her program. So it was one synchronicity after another. And I knew when I met Elisa and did that first weekend of, you know, we firewalked, we we sweat with local indigenous people, we did these rituals, we sang around the fire and we danced, and all of these things just awakened something in my being that hasn't gone back to sleep again. That was what I think I was waiting for in this lifetime was that little spark of a beautiful human to come into my world and set me onto the path that I was destined for. And so since then I've created a whole mystery school program that's been modeled on her beautiful body of work. She's no longer teaching it, and she's blessed me with being able to bring her teachings into the world in this way.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

And I haven't looked at it. Oh, that's incredible. What a great, great story. And yeah, it's so true, right? I think you talked about having this openness, and I think that is such an important first step in opening any doors, is just to be open yourself. And then, yeah, the pieces just fall into place. Yeah, so easy. As you said, it just became easy.

SPEAKER_00 8:58

Yeah, absolutely. And openness, and I would add to that as well, it's a curiosity about maybe what do I not know I don't know? Because it's in that unknown, or what what we would call in these realms, it's in the great mystery where the the the magic or the wonder or the the spark that really illuminates our soul fire, our soul song, it lives in those mysterious unknowable places. And I think if we can surrender and be in the curiosity of the unknowable, which I know is really difficult for a lot of people. Like a lot of people, and I was I was one of them, needed to kind of know what the next step was gonna be and kind of be in control of those steps and have a plan and have a you know a five-year, a 10-year, this is where I'm headed. And so to kind to kind of open into, I don't know where I'm gonna be a year from now, five years from now. And I'm gonna keep following those threads and I'm gonna keep doing what really lights me up because that that I soon realized gave me enough strength and motivation and inspiration to handle all of the other things that come along with our humanly experienced that are I love that you used the word curiosity.

SPEAKER_01 10:20

I'm pretty sure it has come up in every podcast, or most of them, previous to this one. And it's it's so true. Curiosity is what opens the door, right? Getting curious. And we've talked a lot about this on previous podcasts about how curiosity keeps us, I think, in a place of non-attachment, open to different possibilities, different opportunities. And I think you're right too, a lot of people struggle with that. There's that fear, right? I think the greatest fear is the unknown, and it's easier. Well, it's funny, I say easier to stay in the discomfort, but it's also not easy as we know.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Absolutely. And in fact, it can start to be so painful that the step towards the unknown then becomes more freeing. It becomes the next natural evolution as opposed to something I have to go working for and striving for.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Absolutely. I know I definitely got caught in that cycle and that pattern of feeling like I have to control everything and even I don't know, maybe say manipulate or be fully responsible for everything. But when we open ourselves up and we get curious and we step into the possibilities of spirit or spirituality, yeah, it's incredible how things can just be done for us. And it does become easier.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, it becomes easier. And I think there's still an element of accountability and responsibility required in that. You know, it's I I've heard a lot of people say, well, I'm just gonna meditate and let everything come to me. And my response to that is, and when it comes to you, what are you gonna do? So there's this balance of both I would I would term it as masculine and feminine energy, the receptivity and the action. And you know, it's I have these really beautiful dream teachers that talk about honoring dreams when they come to us. So when a dream comes to you and you know it's special, what are you going to do to honor that dream? And I add, what are you going to do to honor the inspiration that comes to you? And for me, that looks like actually taking a step towards it, facing my fears, even if it feels really uncomfortable to put myself out there to be seen, to start an, you know, start a brick and mortar business and and do the thing that I'm inspired to do. Even if it's uncomfortable, taking that step towards it really honors it, in my perspective.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Absolutely. For me, I think the other thing with that too is the consistency in the doing, right? I think it is easy for a lot of people to turn to meditation or turn to prayer in those desperate times. But what about as a daily practice? Can you share with us maybe any some of your daily practices or rituals, or how do you stay connected to yourself, connected in the work you do? Do you have a daily ritual or practice?

SPEAKER_00 13:39

I do, yes. I've I've really oscillated with daily practices over the years. I spent some time for a little while thinking that I needed to move my body, make a bunch of smoothies, meditate, really connect to my intention, work on my vision board. And then I realized as through my oscillations, that some of the idealizing of it needing to look a certain way took me away from what is in this moment and what is needed of me right here and right now. And so now I've I'm at this place after being in this industry and on this path for you know nearly 30 years of really just tuning in every morning and asking my higher self, my guides, whatever it is that's that someone believes in, what is it that love wants of me now? What is love asking for me right here in this moment? And I've narrowed it down after all of this time to focusing on one word, which seems kind of funny after all of the teachings and all of the practices that I've that I've really jumped into and and learned to become a part of my beingness in the world. Now I sit and I focus on one word every single day, and I allow that word to kind of inform my next step and my movement in the world, and I listen. I listen really deeply for you know little bits of inspiration that come through, or someone's name that shows up in my mind, or someone who comes calling on me in some way, and then I'm paying attention to where spirit wants me to be, how love wants to move through me. And so my answer to that question is daily practice, yes, because it's a constant reminder of there's more to this life that I'm seeing right now or experiencing right now. There's a bigger picture here, and I'm gonna tune into that bigger picture even for a few moments and listen. And then the listening usually leads to some form of action and inspired step to take during the day. So my practice is simple these days. Love simplicity, and again, your word is my word for right now is abundance and abundance in all aspects of my life. Deeper connection, you know, deeper mastery of the work that I'm here to do, abundance in my business, abundance in love, all aspects of my being. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

It's funny, I've never been a person to choose a word for the year, so to speak. You know, as we go through each year, people can set intentions or choose a word for their year. But I'm starting to see that a lot more now. Even just recently, I did a channel for somebody, I can't remember who it was, but it was so imperative for them to focus on the word peace and doing everything with peace, even bringing in the peace lily, creating the frequency of peace within their body. Like you talked about alignment with what do you what do you need or what do you want, right? Abundance, of course, in all areas. That is such an incredible and ever expanding vibration. But then there are, you know, we all have these different, I guess, needs or shortfalls, or whatever it is that our energy needs, balancing and adjusting. So it's it's incredible how powerful that can be.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, it really can be. And for many years I've worked with affirmations and really crafting words and then the vibration and the emotion in them, and all of the work that goes into manifestation through words. And and I'm really starting to see that all of those, the fullness of the intention can actually be disseminated down to the simplicity of one word. And we can still hold all of that, all of what we see it to be, believe it to be, the way I want to feel with it, manifest it. You know, all those beautiful practices for manifestation can be held in that one word. And that one word is easy to reference. It's easy to come back to and remind myself again and again.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

The whole keep it simple, right? We've we've heard it our whole lifetime. Keep it simple. And we probably are the ones that create the most complication in our own lives. And I want to come back to something you shared earlier about not knowing what's ahead next year, and that's okay. We don't always have to know. Right? Sometimes the more we know, there's more distraction. Whereas if we cannot have to worry about it, less for us to focus on because it keeps everything so much simpler.

SPEAKER_00 18:41

It does.

SPEAKER_01 18:42

I want to ask you to tell us a little bit about the different people or the clients that you work with.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Lately, I'm finding well, for the longest time I was working with people who were already kind of into spirituality, maybe into some sort of holistic modality already. They they were on the path of healing, I would say, and had already kind of explored different doorways and were looking for the deeper dive. Now I'm finding I'm really aligning with people who just want change in their lives and are ready for it. Because the work that I do changes people's paradigms. So it can change the context, it can change our entire belief system, it can flip everything upside down. That kind of thing can be daunting if somebody doesn't want change. And so I'm finding more and more people coming to me who are just like, I've tried it all, I've done all the things. I've you know, I'm ready to quit my job, I'm ready to leave my toxic relationship, I'm ready to just do anything in order to shift something in my life because there's just a hole, there's a void there, and I can't seem to fill it. None of my coping mechanisms are working anymore. You know what? I've done all of these things, and even the good methodologies and practices still aren't doing what I want them to be doing, and so those tend to be the people who then come to me because the work that I do will be a really deep dive into the psyche, into the emotions, into the wounding, into the patterning, and from there create a different paradigm for oneself.

SPEAKER_01 20:21

Yeah, I think I would agree with you. It seems to be we're at this place on this planet where people are like people are ready to throw in the towel, they're moving into that place of surrender, which has been hard to do. But yeah, people know there's something happening and are looking for that change. So I'm I'm finding a lot more men even stepping into this and getting curious, as you would put it. I think I had a ceremony in December where I had six men, which is huge.

SPEAKER_00 20:52

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

To have more men coming, which is is great. But do you find too that you're having young people, people that are elderly, male, female, all walks of life, so to speak?

SPEAKER_00 21:05

All walks of life. A lot more young people are coming to me, which was kind of unusual. When you think of like identity shifting kind of work, it tends to be something we do, you know, after our Saturn return, after we're 28 years old, maybe in our 30s, and now all these things just aren't working anymore. And now I'm finding there's young ones in their like 18, 19, 20-year-olds who are coming to do this kind of work and are legitimately ready for this kind of work. So it's a little bit blowing my mind lately to just to see. I think it has to do with the rapid evolution humanity is under right now. And we might be doing karmic clearing for multiple lifetimes. You know, we might have all of these wounds and experiences that were so challenging, and all of these obstacles early on in life that leads, you know, there's a lot of youth right. Now that are that are lost, that are that are truly wanting to find their way, and there isn't maybe the guidance around them to support them. And so a lot more younger people are coming to this work now, which I haven't seen before in the 26 years of doing it.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah, it's it is great because I think, like you said, there is a lot of I think there's a lot of lineage clearing, a lot of ancestral clearing. I'm definitely seeing that. I've seen in the last six months, I don't know if you've seen this too, it's almost like there's one person in each family that is almost clearing for the whole family.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

A lot of that.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

I've seen that as well. And a lot more of the ancestral clearings are being necessary. They're like being called on for ceremonies now. It's not only, it's not only me and my immediate world anymore. Now it's like my ancestral lineage has kind of been waiting for me as well. And for, you know, those who step into these kinds of modalities and these bodies of work and these rituals, there are others long before them who've been waiting a long time for them to step on that path.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

Yeah. Let me ask you this. So you've been doing this a long time. And I would say, you know, this work we'll call it, energy work, holistic work, it's been around a very long time and it's become more popular, we'll say, in the last probably 10 years for sure. It could be viewed as very woo-woo, people can be very judgy, and it can be very intimidating to step out and say, This is me, this is what I bring forward, whether it's bringing forward Reiki or channeling or ceremonies or work of a priestess. Did you experience any negativity or judgment? And if so, how did you manage that or move past it or through it?

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Oh, that's a really good and loaded question.

unknown 24:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Yes, I would say 20 years ago, there was a lot more stigma around this kind of work, around the woo-woo work. People were just getting into massage, maybe was okay. Maybe a little bit of body work, fine. All right, I'll do that, because you know, science is starting to catch up and tell us that that it's it's actually good for the body. And in the last, I would agree, 10 years, maybe 15 years, there's been an opening in it. And so what I would offer to that is I actually had to face some really big fears inside of myself. The biggest one I would say would be the fear of persecution. I think that's one that's that stemmed through many lifetimes of being burnt at the stake or whatnot happened with, you know, inherent gifts not being accepted in in the society or the community I was a part of. And so for me, the more I faced, and especially in the last 10 years, the more I faced that fear of persecution, the easier it was within me to then be able to authentically say whatever it is that I'm doing. So I no longer hide what I'm doing. I don't, I don't sugarcoat it with anything else. When I tell people I'm working with shadows, I'm actually working with shadows, you know, and it's dark and it's painful, and yes, it's priestessing work. And all of that has evolved from this willingness, I would say, to face the core of the core. Whatever it is that we're most afraid of will come to pass if we're still operating from that place of fear. So that I think is probably what I would offer to anyone listening to this, especially if someone is all is already stepping into maybe some of these gifts that are edge walking gifts, I would say, on the fringe, right? The more you can face whatever it is you fear will happen to you. And like, like honestly, face it, maybe by doing a ritual, by naming it out loud, by you know, doing some somatic work around it, whatever that looks like for someone, to step towards that fear, the easier then it's going to be to open up to the authenticity of your essence, I would say, of of what that path really is meant to look like for any for someone.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I love that. It's funny, we really are the creators of everything that we experience, right? Our our fears project our negative experiences as you were talking about that. I was realizing, yeah, that we totally do that, you know, worrying about someone's reaction and just creating it. We're always manifesting. And uh it took me a long time to get past that too. I know I used to find in the beginning, especially with social media, right? It's so easy for people to be very judgmental on social media and comment on posts and things like that. And initially I used to feel like I had to defend or try to convince, and then I finally got to a point where now I just, you know, I think I went then to thanking them for sharing their feedback, and now I just don't even give any energy to it. But it does when we when we start to realize that just allowing things to be doesn't really create the harm for us, then we can you know open up even more and even more. And uh, I mean, today I can easily tell people, oh yeah, I talked to plant and plant medicines, and I can confidently tell my husband now that I saw you know pixies working on his legs and not worried about how he is going to uh respond, you know. But before there was no way I would ever say anything like that or or share any of that because you know, what are people gonna think? But at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter. Who cares? And and I'm sure you feel this way when we are fully living in our truth, or like you talked about authentically, it's such a beautiful and rewarding place. It doesn't matter what negativity or toxic whatever is going on around you, it it doesn't have the ability to impact you because you don't give it that opportunity.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Exactly. Yes, and I would add to that as well that that peace around everything being a mirror of what's going on inside of me, that concept or that context has really shed light on the paths that I've taken over these years. And it's helped me to resolve some of the discomfort in having those, you know, those negative messages or those projections coming my way is when I when I experience that on the outside, one of the first things that I do is look deeply inside of myself and ask myself, you know, what is repressed inside of me that I would get so activated by this or be so triggered by this experience right now or what this person said? What in me is being revealed right now? And if it's being revealed right now, can I take the time to actually feel it, to look at it, to be honest with myself, you know, not just to totally dismiss it as, well, that's just theirs and it has nothing to do with me. If I've actually been activated on some level by it, then there's a component of it that's mine. And if I'm willing to look at that component that's mine, then the the freedom comes on the other side of that. We're not gonna honestly look at someone and go, oh, that jealousy that I see you're experiencing, I too have that. Or that hatred that you're throwing my way. I feel that on occasion too. And it's a it's an honest reflection. It isn't it isn't a bypass of it or a or a negating of it. It's transparency, I think, radical honesty towards the self, and a willingness as well to like dive in there and excavate whatever it is that's just shown itself in such a beautiful way and do the work. Do the work to resolve it in me.

SPEAKER_01 30:17

It really is a journey of self-discovery, isn't it? We can learn so much about who we are. I think so many of us in this world, right from the time we were born and through being raised, and we've just been molded and shaped into this is who we're what we're supposed to be, and this is what we're supposed to look like and speak like and think and and and everything, right? And it's so far from the truth, and also that we can all be so different, yes, and that that is okay.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

That is okay, it's acceptable. It's okay for someone to have a completely opposing perspective and viewpoint and belief system than any of us. It's okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yeah, and not have to feel like you have to change them.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

Exactly. How freeing is that?

SPEAKER_01 31:09

I I used to feel that. Oh my gosh, yeah. Like it takes, you know, it's creating a lot of work if you think you're gonna try to change someone. Who wants to take on that work? But I mean, I I used to be that person, right? I used to think, oh, and in a way that you want to help people, you know, see them change for the better, but that's not my responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

It really isn't.

SPEAKER_01 31:30

And it's a workload that I do not need to take on. Nobody needs to take on, right? I mean, oh my goodness, it's big enough workload to just figure out who we are and then to be that and allow ourselves to be that.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Yes. And what I think most people don't realize is when we let go of the responsibility of needing to change anyone outside of us, the amount of life force energy that returns to us is remarkable. It is beyond what we can even imagine of like, oh, you mean I don't have to control my children or my partner or my best friends or anyone commenting on social media or any, you know, it's it's like there's this resurgence of life that's available to us when we can just stay in our own lane and do the pieces that show up that are authentically ours.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Yeah. I'm curious to know if you've experienced this because this has been my experience when I finally made that shift of yeah, trying to control or or change other people and focused solely on myself and stepping into my truth and unraveling, as you said, bringing myself to the surface. It's like the people around me actually did change. But they didn't, right? They just became, I guess, a different mirror. But I noticed changes in in my family, in my friends, but they didn't do anything, it was me that did everything, but I did it for myself, through myself, but it sure reflected outwards. Did you experience that as well?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

Oh yes, and I still experience that these days as well. When I do a deep piece of work and I know I've shifted something in my physiology, then suddenly the the change I notice in interacting or in dynamics is my reaction to how someone else is behaving. So they may be behaving exactly the same way. And suddenly I have, you know, grace around it and maybe some understanding. And I'm like, ah, yeah, ah, yeah, I see where you're coming from there. And all of what used to be present that would cause disharmony in that dynamic starts to shift and morph and change the more we do our own work. And every once in a while I do see other people's behaviors changing too, which is another kind of like icing on the cake of like, oh, look at that. There's a little bit more purposefulness there, a little bit more inspiration there. The thing that maybe I wanted for that other is is suddenly coming to them just by the shift in their environment, by me having done the work. And you know, it just ripples out in ways that we can't even comprehend, truly, I believe.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Absolutely. I would love for you to share a little bit more, maybe in detail, about the work you do. If someone were to come to you and say, I need some help. What sort of practices or techniques do you offer? What would it look like for somebody who is looking to work with you?

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Mm-hmm. Well, the the first part of my career was primarily one-on-one work. So I've practiced a lot in in shadow work, in lots of different energy healing modalities, some coaching, some, you know, like spiritual direction kind of work, a little bit of channeling in these more recent years, I would say. And the work that is really close and dear to my heart is group work. There's something about doing, and I'm sure you notice this in the work that you do in the world, you bring a group of people together, and it's like everyone has their own piece that they're working on. And then as a collective constellation, there's consciousness that's created around group work that then it's almost like it speeds up the healing for everybody. It's like now I have multiple mirrors that I can look at. Now I have, you know, multiple core wounds that maybe have surfaced, or you know, all of these opportunities are being shown to me in the face and the heart of another. And so I now have this beautiful smorgasporg to draw from and to receive from, to surrender into, maybe even, that then makes the work that much more powerful and potent. So when I do shadow work, I mean I'll do one-on-one shadow work, but when we do it as a group, it's really powerful because there's all genders are there, all age groups are there, and you know, there's a really good representation of the of our civilization, I would say, when we bring people together to look at their shadows. And so in that body of work, we do deep healing of core wounding, of belief patterns, of trauma, even oftentimes shows up on the carpet. And we do it as a group. And we, you know, we go, we ride the wave of the highs and the lows that come with healing work, and we do that together and and support one another in that process. And and it's beautiful and it's difficult at times, and it's expansive at times, and it's all the things together. So, shadow work is a big part of it's kind of like the foundation of everything else that I do. We just actually finished a firewalking retreat on Sunday, three days of firewalking and edge work of facing all of your fears, and that was really powerful and transformative. And then I work in the realm of women's mysteries, and so the priestessing, teaching others how to priestess and lead circles and hold space and transmute energies, and yes, those are the biggest bodies of work that I facilitate.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

Beautiful. And for those that are listening, so you are just south of Sherwood Park, correct? I am yeah, and your business name?

SPEAKER_00 37:32

It's under my name, so Natalie Jackson. I also my my program for women is called Woman Unveiled, and that particular one has has its own kind of like consciousness around it. And so Woman Unveiled has a community, and we do some of the Magdalene Rose teachings in that community, and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:53

Wonderful. And we're gonna include your your website and links to socials and everything here so that those of you that are interested can reach out to Natalie. And what do you have coming up for events, retreats, anything like that in the next year?

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Well, the interesting thing that's been happening, Kim, is I've gone through a really beautiful and painful death and rebirth of community. All of what I thought community was dissolved a few years ago and is coming up out of the ethers once again. It's like coming back into my experience. And so this summer there's all kinds of community gatherings that are happening again here on the land. Uh, like larger kind of retreats and smallish festivals are taking place here, like the Ohm retreat and WUB, and there's a joy festival happening, and just some beautiful curated events are being drawn here to this land. And so, if anyone is looking for community, there's lots of ways to connect in that way. And I think the thing that I'm most excited about right now, that's new, it's it's really fresh in my dreamscape, I would say, is I'm now creating a whole practitioner program, a Rose Temple practitioner program, to teach others how to not only channel the Magdalene mysteries, but become practitioners of all of these practices that include shadow work and healing arts and sacred sexuality and you know a bunch of other beautiful teachings from the Magdalene lineage.

SPEAKER_01 39:33

Oh, wonderful. I'm sure we're gonna have several listeners that are gonna be interested in that. So we'll definitely make sure your links are available. And for anybody interested in more information, they can connect with you. I always like to ask this to everybody before we close, but for anybody who's listening, who may be getting curious, or someone who is ready to throw in the towel? Like I've tried everything, I can't do anything anymore. Someone who is really struggling. We know there's a lot of struggling and suffering on the planet right now. What advice could you offer? Is there a practice? Is there a tool? Is there something you could suggest or recommend to help people sort of come back to reset?

SPEAKER_00 40:17

That's a really good question. I think it's really necessary right now for more and more ideas to come into the collective just to be in support of exactly what I what I'm noticing too. People are suffering right now. I think the first thing I would offer is the possibility or the thought that there's nothing broken with anyone who might be listening right now. There's nothing wrong with you or broken. We're simply at a time in human history where everything is being revealed so that we can evolve it as a collective, so we can work through it as a collective, which means it might not only be your own shadows and your own wounds that are surfacing right now. It might be, like we talked about earlier, your ancestors' wounds and shadows that have come in through your own DNA that are surfacing now. And so, what I would offer to people, that is one of the first teachings that I bring in the bodies of work that I do, is start by silencing the outside world. I think as long as we're tuned in to the frequency of the collective, the greater collective consciousness, we're constantly going to be feeling all of the darkness that the collective is feeling. And in order to start doing or like moving into our own lane and doing the pieces that we can do, we need to shut it all off. And you know, I I mean, you've probably done this as well, I would imagine, just from this conversation, is I shut off the radio about 20 years ago. I mean, I no longer watch the television, I don't watch the news, I don't listen to the radio unless it's specific songs that you know that I'm excited about. Simply because if I'm going to be a leader or a teacher of ways of moving through what's happening right now, then I need to empty myself to what's needed in order to support humanity right now. And I'm imagining anyone who's listening to this right now, in this moment, probably has someone around you in your own vicinity that could use a little bit of inspiration or a little bit of like, oh, what can I do right now? And unless we have silence, it's really difficult to bring through those gifts or that that word and that one moment that's going to inspire someone to keep moving forward. And so I would say find moments, even if just for an hour every day, where there is no noise, there's no radio on, there's not even any music playing, and you can just be with the silence. Because in the silence, then you can feel what's really going on inside of you and give it the space and the attention and the care that it needs. Really, it just needs spaciousness to be able to move. And even if it's just for a short period of time, you can love yourself through the process of healing and moving whatever it is that's being called on to move. So I would say start by silencing the noise.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

That is great advice. And yeah, there is a lot of noise around us these days for sure. So great advice. That's something that I I just came back from Thailand, as many know. And I always come back and yeah, it's like, what can I what can I add to this to make it quieter or make it more in alignment with my vibration? And and that's one of the things because we can so easily get caught up on even just our our phones. Yes. And I don't know if you find this as As an entrepreneur too, sometimes there's this need we feel to be checking and responding and and whatnot. And I've been able to finally, slowly, but even more, I want to just give myself that extra space, the time for just, like you said, silence, even rest. Rest. Where there isn't the distraction, it's peace, right? So beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 44:24

It can be as simple as like I I leave my phone out of my office for my morning practice. And that I can stay there for half an hour or an hour. And there's no, even if I hear it off in the distance, I'm not gonna go up and respond to it. So there's like a real, like it's taken that level of, you know, setting it aside in order to create the distance than to let the silence be prevalent, be the main focus.

SPEAKER_01 44:54

Absolutely. That's probably the hardest one for people, right? The cell phone. Like I said, I know I have created space, but I can I can create more. So I know this is something that every single one of us, maybe this can be like an April challenge that we throw out to people is you know, give yourself an hour from the time you get up before you connect with your phone, and then you know, maybe two hours before going to bed, they often say I love that.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

That's a great idea, Kim. I think I might adopt that myself.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Okay, maybe we can hold each other accountable for that. Absolutely. I love it. Natalie, I could just continue to talk with you for hours and hours and days, and we are gonna do that, but when we have other time, and perhaps we'll have you back on again. But thank you so much for your time, for sharing a bit about you, about your work. Again, we'll post the information to Natalie's website and and socials and everything that is available here so that people can reach out to you. I think you're gonna get some interest here from a lot of our listeners. So thank you again. Uh, thank you to everybody who has tuned in. Thank you for listening. Don't forget to follow, subscribe, invite your friends and family. And if you would like to be a guest and share your stories on In the Hands of Spirit, please reach out. Who knows? Maybe you will be the next guest. Have a great day, everyone. Thank you for tuning in and listening to today's stories. Please feel free to share your thoughts or comments about today's episode on the podcast platform or any of my social media platforms. Be sure to follow along and see who will be my next guest to share incredible stories of spirit. Who knows? Maybe it will be you. Contact me if you're interested in being a guest. Have a beautiful day.